Block bad players in Alfa Call

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Block bad players in Alfa Call

Post by HelloWolf » Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:38 am

When all players share the champions, some very bad players won't wait and won't follow any rules, just use TS or any skills to kill the champions by themselves, then all other players include the finders who shares the champion won't get any gems or coins.
Everytime we will chat to the player who is too selfish, but it never worked. For example, one player is called Bellg***, who is always steal gems and coins and never share with others.

Is it possible for Alfa to set a filter when set a port to block the bad players?

Now the only way is some strong players "follow" the bad players and kill all the animals in front of them to teach them the lesson, but not always have time/passion to do so.

It will be a very good feature.

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Re: Block bad players in Alfa Call

Post by yakuza » Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:38 pm

I don't believe this would be good solution to given problem. Can you imagine selecting players from list every time you place alpha portal? Opening it would become a nightmare most of the time. Also it's great place for abuse as it can be used both for "good", but also for "evil" once some bad guy becomes Alpha he/she would be able to make portals only for his/her friends ignoring all others and making others' game unpleasant.

I don't really have any recipe to solve your issue, but I'm almost sure it's not the way to go.
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Re: Block bad players in Alfa Call

Post by PharaohSabre » Thu Nov 22, 2018 5:52 am

No support from me. Blocking aspects of the game from certain people just because you can't control them is a childish move. Especially when the option to leave a room if said player upsets you that much, is available. Also, did you even think of how horribly such a feature could be abused? At all?
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Re: Block bad players in Alfa Call

Post by HelloWolf » Sat Nov 24, 2018 1:02 pm

The decision is not made by alpha, but all the players in the room - if more than half players agree to block a player, then this player will be blocked in Alpha call. So it is hard to be abused.

Why a bad player must force all other good players to leave the room? Who should leave the room?

The common sense is so simple:
1. if you share, then go to join the share from others
2. if you don't share, don't join the share from others
Everyone will be happy.

But if a player never share, but always "steal" other player's share - few players are waiting for all to come, but the greedy player comes and kill with full skills, who will be happy?

The solution is simple: the good stronger player will follow the greedy player to force the bad one to leave. It works in most of the cases.

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Re: Block bad players in Alfa Call

Post by White Fang 1 » Sat Nov 24, 2018 10:09 pm

This could still have problems as a group can pick on one player who is not doing anything at all.
Also tying to make the other player leave by force might just make them more aggressive or post bad things in chat more.
The best thing to do is leave and not cause any more issues or problems, do not stoop down to their level, be the better wolf. :D
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Re: Block bad players in Alfa Call

Post by PharaohSabre » Sun Nov 25, 2018 3:28 am

HelloWolf wrote:
Sat Nov 24, 2018 1:02 pm
The decision is not made by alpha, but all the players in the room - if more than half players agree to block a player, then this player will be blocked in Alpha call. So it is hard to be abused.

Why a bad player must force all other good players to leave the room? Who should leave the room?

The common sense is so simple:
1. if you share, then go to join the share from others
2. if you don't share, don't join the share from others
Everyone will be happy.

But if a player never share, but always "steal" other player's share - few players are waiting for all to come, but the greedy player comes and kill with full skills, who will be happy?

The solution is simple: the good stronger player will follow the greedy player to force the bad one to leave. It works in most of the cases.
You fail to realize that it's not yours or anyone's responsibility to bully someone out of a room if their gameplay habits annoy you that much. The fact that you think that you or anyone deserves such power speaks volumes. Profiling and harrasing someone to the point of leaving a room is not only disgusting but it's against the official rules of the game. Whereas the behavior you mentioned is not. The addition of such a feature would only result in creating a hive mind mentality among these so called "good" players that will encourage them to target players that don't play the game the way they think they should, and just drive people away from the game. And besides, what happens when the "bad" players stack up against you? No matter which way you put it its an awful idea especially if the sole purpose of you wanting it to be implemented so bad is so you ostracize someone NOT because they were a hacker, broke official game rules or were verbally abusive, but simply because you don't agree with how they play the game. Not a good look at all.
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Re: Block bad players in Alfa Call

Post by White Fang 1 » Sun Nov 25, 2018 3:34 am

PharaohSabre wrote:
Sun Nov 25, 2018 3:28 am
You fail to realize that it's not yours or anyone's responsibility to bully someone out of a room if their gameplay habits annoy you that much. The fact that you think that you or anyone deserves such power speaks volumes. Profiling and harrasing someone to the point of leaving a room is not only disgusting but it's against the official rules of the game. Whereas the behavior you mentioned is not. The addition of such a feature would only result in creating a hive mind mentality among these so called "good" players that will encourage them to target players that don't play the game the way they think they should, and just drive people away from the game. And besides, what happens when the "bad" players stack up against you? No matter which way you put it its an awful idea especially if the sole purpose of you wanting it to be implemented so bad is so you ostracize someone NOT because they were a hacker, broke official game rules or were verbally abusive, but simply because you don't agree with how they play the game. Not a good look at all.
Well said PharaohSabre.
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Re: Block bad players in Alfa Call

Post by rain » Sun Nov 25, 2018 4:01 am

If there is someone who is annoying, simply leave the room and find another. If they call you a coward for not standing up to that person then they called you a coward. End of story.

Players who don't share tend to not care about talking to other players so talking wouldn't work. It would be best to let then do their own thing. Telling them to stop would probably make them stay for longer.

Filtering out 'bad players' would not be a wise feature.

The Alpha would chose who to block based on their subjective view. If they don't like someone, they won't share with that specific person even though that person has done nothing wrong.

Also, if the Alpha was the person who would not share they could block everyone in the room from getting to the port. So if the Alpha kept dying while killing the champion, only the Alpha would be able to get back to the champ.

If you hate on the players that you don't like and go around telling everyone to stop them, you could be making 'good players' into the 'bad players' you wanted revenge on. A lot of this drama can negatively impact people's enotional states. The way you worded it:
but not always have time/passion to do so.
Suggests that you like the idea of players following the 'bad player' in the way they hunt to show revenge. You are saying that everyone should do so and if you don't you are a 'bad player' and you support them.

I doubt the other player would care as well. They would just go find another champion. Going against them would be a form of harassment.

They did not break any official rules. The rule of sharing is a community made rule and following it is optional but respected. It is not a rule everyone has to follow.

If they are rude towards you, don't bother to deal with them and trigger them even more to the point where they get more people to gang up on you. Just leave the room politely. There is no need to be aggressive or passive aggressive towards them.

I personally do not like them but I find no point in forming pointless drama.
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Re: Block bad players in Alfa Call

Post by White Fang 1 » Sun Nov 25, 2018 5:06 am

I believe Rain and PharaohSabre ended this thread. Great replies. HelloWolf maybe if you clarify or rethink certain aspects of this suggestion I could possibly work. Maybe just a simple report button or as everyone is saying just leave the room.
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Re: Block bad players in Alfa Call

Post by R a k s h a » Sun Nov 25, 2018 10:48 am

Maybe an alternative is that players can private chat without sending a friend request if they feel like sharing a champ or just to say hi... yes, I know it'll probably be complicated, but then, its a suggestion ;)

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